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I'm starting to think this is a sick joke. It's shaped like a bolt. It has threads like a bolt. But for all intents and purposes it is one with the exhaust manifold.

Here's the piece I'm working with.

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And here's what's left of the bolts. I need to remove them both but have only cut down the one.

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Here's a view from the side where the head of the bolt used to be.

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Here's the other end. You can kind of see that the hole was not dead center by the time it got to the bottom but it's not quite as uncentered as it looks there. I think the camera being on that side makes it look even worse.

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And here is what my removal situation looks like. Okay, sorry, I just realized the wrench is on the wrong side in that picture but I just stuck it in real quick to give you a general idea.

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I just put the tap in, step on the manifold, and turn. This isn't ideal. I think my chances of breaking something would go down if I were able to secure it to something.

And finally, this gif tries to show that on the end that was opposite the head, the metal between the manifold and bolt looks seamless. It looks like they screwed in the bolt and then welded it the manifold. Not really, but sort of. I took a dremel around that area to see if I could find a seam but didn't find one.

I've tried heat. Honestly, heat has not worked for me yet. It's been a complete waste of time. I got one of the yellow torches and I'll heat up the metal around the bolt for a solid 5 minutes. It never starts to glow red. It never does anything.

I've sprayed the bolt with PB blaster probably 20 times over the last couple weeks. I soaked a rag in PB Blaster and let it sit over bolt all night. The bolt doesn't care.

Please tell me there is some hope. I'm half tempted to just drill it out more and secure the new bolt with a nut on the other side (instead of just threads which is how it's designed).

Do you think this bolt is essentially welded to the manifold and is there any way it can be gotten out?

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There's 2 things you can do:

  1. More heat: The bolt does need to glow red-orange for this to work. If it's not glowing red-orange, it ain't hot enough. Getting a bolt that hot does take a lot of time with an acetylene-oxygen torch, other torches will take a lot longer, if they can do it at all.
  2. Drill it out: Drilling it out is your option if heat doesn't work. Sure, you could do a nut and bolt, but you could also cut new threads. Get a tap-and-dye set, select your favourite bolt size for the new threads and have at her. You may also want to use thread-locking compound to secure that bolt.
  • If I keep drilling bigger and bigger holes, eventually cutting into the manifold, do I have to worry too much about it cracking the manifold or something? Is there any disadvantage to using a nut? I'm hesitant to try rethreading because the hole isn't perfectly aligned. – user19596 Jul 23 '16 at 2:38
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    I've never seen a metal part crack because of drilling. This ain't wood :) Nut and bolt should work fine for this application, use thread-locker to keep it on. – tlhIngan Jul 23 '16 at 3:26
  • @user19596 If you have a welder you could also try youtu.be/bSOg7aQ44eg (drill out center, weld nut to top, jiggle out with a wrench). – Jason C Jul 23 '16 at 12:17
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The exhaust manifold is a typical candidate for seized bolts.

You could try a pin punch to separate the rest of the drilled bolt from the manifold. Place the punch on the small circular groove visible on the photo, hammer radially, downwards from the outside, thereby warping it inwards and hopefully separating it from the manifold. If that doesn't succeed there is only the nut solution left.

For the remaining bolt: Use a hammer and a pin-punch, jolt the bolt radially just above the manifold. Make a small groove in the bolt just above the manifold, use a center-punch and hammer it tangentially in the groove on the bolt, thereby rotating the bolt counterclockwise. Additionally heating the thing would be also a good idea. If that doesn't work: Cut the bolt and drill it out, then use a nut.

Later, on assembly: Be sure to use some high temperature anti-seize compound (either cooper or ceramic paste) on the threads.

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