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Is there a way in modern vehicles to know when the thermostat is on vs off? Is it possible to tell when you don't have access to under the hood, IOW when you're driving?

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You will know the thermostat is open when the engine reaches operating temperature. The thermostat opens just before or around the operating temp of the engine. Most modern vehicles have some sort of temperature gauge in them. If it's just a needle, you'll notice where the needle rests under normal operating conditions (most that I've seen sit right in the middle of the gauge, give or take a few degrees of arc).

If you don't have a temperature gauge, you can tell when the thermostat is open for sure by noticing the heat coming off of the upper radiator hose. It will become very warm very fast, so watch when you touch it your hand doesn't linger or you will get burned. Your radiator will start heating up at this point as well.

If you radiator has a cap installed directly on it, you can start to see radiator fluid being circulated in the end tank of the radiator associated with the cap.

One last thing, if your vehicle has a separate pressure tank with the radiator cap installed on it, you should be able to start seeing the coolant circulating through it when the thermostat becomes open ... that is as long as the tank is clear or semi-clear.

Also of note is that after the engine is up to temperature, the thermostat will be in various states of "open", meaning, it will always be open to a state.

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  • So these are all guidelines for when the thermostat SHOULD be open but not a definitive indicator as a boolean data type , true or false, correct?
    – amphibient
    Commented May 31, 2015 at 23:55
  • For the purposes of flushing a radiator/coolant system, anything I mentioned above will give you when the thermostat has or has already opened, unless there is a mechanical malfunction with the thermostat itself. You could positively know the thermostat has opened by putting an OBDII reader on an OBDII system which shows live data (or some other data scanning software), figuring out what the temp on the thermostat is supposed to be, and then waiting for it to register over that temp within the ECM. Commented Jun 1, 2015 at 1:21
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my car seems to heatup in city trafic. I thought gauge was bad cause it show red n green light only 4 hot n cold. So bought obd2 and found gauge is correct. 2nd guess was bad thermostat but seems At 190 F does open n bring down to 185 but on next stop in trafic temp reaches 192... Thermostat again tries and bring back to 187 F. And after few stops n temp going down n up the temp reach 225 F and red light get on. No idea how to remedy this. Coming to question i found there is no physical sensor attached to thermostat. And you cant know open or close in real time. Only thing is to guess by watching temp through obd. But it is not exact because temp sensors are outside of engine. Other way is to open the housing pull out thermostat n test it on stove.

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I tried the OBDII method advised by Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 and it turned out to be even better than I expected.

My OBDII reader directly tells me the temperature of the coolant, which slowly increases until the thermostat opens, at which point the coolant temperature starts to drop as the engine coolant suddenly mixes with the colder coolant from the radiator.

With my Peugeot 2008, the coolant reached 87°C then went back down to 79°C in about 30 seconds before starting to increase again. I've done it 3 times today to verify, I touched the hose at 85°C and it was still cold then as soon as the temperature dropped and the hose was suddenly hot. Bear in mind different cars will have different thresholds.

It's not a Boolean true or false and I also had to drive about 10 min to trigger it so you have to keep an eye at the reading while you're behind the wheel but it's a pretty accurate and easy way of knowing when the thermostat opens without having to go under the hood.

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