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I have been wondering why exactly is it that water in the cooling system of a car does not boil. The boiling point of water is 212 F, and normal engine operating temperatures can get up to 250 F.

I know that antifreeze also acts as anti-boil, but one time I ran straight water in a cooling system and it never overheated.

I was thinking that because the coolant system is closed off to the atmosphere, it may change the boiling point - any vapor that formed would have to compress the water (which basically can't be done) or would have to overcome the radiator cap. But I'm not sure of all this.

What gives?

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Because the system is kept under pressure and that raises the boiling point of the fluid.

This also explains why it is dangerous to open hot systems - the rapid expansion as the fluid reaches equilibrium can cause burns...

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As another answer states, it's due to pressure, but here's some more information so maybe you understand better.

Below is a chart which shows how the relationship to pressure affects the boiling point of water (from this website):

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In the chart, it is using 14.7psi as air pressure at sea level. As the pressure rises, so does the boiling point. A typical cooling system runs at between 16psi and 22psi (I think that's as high as I've seen, but it doesn't mean they don't run them higher). On the chart, you'd add the pressure of the cooling system (let's use 16psi as the example here). The total pressure of the system would be ~31psi (14.7 for pressure at sea level plus the 16 for the system pressure). That would put the boiling point of water between 250° and 254 °F. This is just water. When you add anti-freeze/boil solutions to the water, it becomes higher than that.

How does the pressure in the system raise? Just like you stated that the steam in the system creates this, but it doesn't compress the coolant itself, because you can't compress liquids. As heat is introduced into the system, the liquid itself expands as does any steam which forms. This creates the pressure and is regulated by the relief valve located in the pressure cap as well as the thermostat/radiator, which keeps it cool enough so the coolant doesn't boil. Depending on the system itself will dictate how pressure is relieved and how it will behave.

The normal operating temperature of a vehicle will rarely ever see 250 °F. Your engine will most likely start seeing a large amount of ping/knock at this temperature. Most modern vehicles run in the 200-210° range. Older vehicles ran cooler down below 195°, but that's a tale for a different day.

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  • Water is compressible, just not very much, but it is not correct to say it is incompressible. In many situations we assume water is incompressible as the change is small, see usgs.gov/special-topic/water-science-school/science/…
    – Solar Mike
    Commented Apr 22, 2020 at 20:48
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    @SolarMike - While technically you are correct, for all practical purposes it doesn't compress. Commented Apr 22, 2020 at 21:04
  • which is why I mentioned that: “in many situations we assume water is incompressible...”
    – Solar Mike
    Commented Apr 22, 2020 at 21:19
  • @SolarMike - It does, however, expand ... just freeze it. Commented Apr 22, 2020 at 21:37
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Mixing fluids in solutions changes the physical properties usually in way that usually exceed the parameters of each liquid individually. Other factors include concentration as well as temperature and pressure.

Water: Freezing Point 0 C (32F)

    Boiling Point: 100 C (212F)

Ethylene Glycol: Freezing Point -12 C (10F)

     Boiling Point: 197.3 C (387.1 F)

In Solution: Freezing Point ) 0% 100% H2O 0F 60% 40% H2O -54 to -70F

Boiling Point at 60% approx 110 C (230 F)

This is one reason for thermostats,cooling fans and pressure relief caps to keep everything from rupturing hoses etc.

Other interesting properties to note are Flash point of antifreeze in a closed container is 111 C (232F). It will also auto-ignite at 410C (770F) It is toxic to humans and animals.

This information is available on the material data sheet.

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