I have an old (25 years) transmission from a BMW E36 which I want to use. The transmission must have sat outdoors for a while, because there was white scale on the outside and inside of the bell housing. I removed the rusted and seized clutch fork and release bearing guide tube.

Unfortunately there was a lot of rust all along the input shaft and the clutch wouldn't slide along the spline.

I cleaned up the input shaft the best I could using 600-1200 grit wet and dry sandpaper and WD-40. The clutch slides smoothly now (by hand, not installed yet).

There is a bit of pitting on the shaft. I'm not sure what are acceptable tolerances on where the input shaft slides into the pilot bearing on the engine. I am also hoping the input shaft seal did it's job and there is no water ingress into the transmission (I will be replacing the seal).

This is an expensive transmission and replacing the input shaft is not an option. What problems would I face if I go ahead and install this transmission?

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    Looks like minor surface rust to me.
    – Moab
    Commented Feb 15, 2020 at 13:25

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I think the input shaft is the least of your concerns with this transmission TBH, but you seem to be aware of the potential issues. Looking at just the input shaft, I would see the following potential issues:

  1. Corrosion has taken the shaft splines out of tolerance for fit. Over time rust may have eaten the splines down to the point where you'll get too much play in the splines
  2. Rust buildup may prevent the shaft from fitting. There are parts where you may have trouble getting it off and getting it smooth again. This is the opposite of #1 really, but you could have #1 in one spot and problem #2 in another
  3. Weakening due to exposure. You say the shaft it pitted, there could be damage to it that weakens it to the point it could snap under load

These are the potential concerns, from the pics it looks like you've cleaned up the input shaft pretty well and I don't see much evidence for damage so personally I think you're okay there. The one thing I would suggest is getting in between the splines a bit more, I would suggest a rotary tool for that rather than sandpaper.

  • Can you clarify what you mean by input shaft being least of my concerns?
    – tgun926
    Commented Feb 15, 2020 at 10:05
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    Seals tend to degrade when an engine or transmission sits for a long period of time @tgun926. Cars need to be driven, when they aren't water tends to get in and things corrode. I'd be concerned about the input and output shaft seals and bearings, but if water got inside the whole thing could be in bad shape inside.
    – GdD
    Commented Feb 15, 2020 at 11:00
  • Oh yes of course, I will be replacing the input seal. I can't replace the bearing as that requires to split the box. I think my biggest concern was input shaft imbalance caused by pitting. I guess there might be slightly more wear on the input pilot bearing.
    – tgun926
    Commented Feb 15, 2020 at 11:28

I would clean it with a soft wire brush fitted to a drill or angle grinder then a little wet and dry to smooth any roughness. You can still clearly see machining marks on the splines, so you can’t have lost much material. I don’t think you will have a problem there.

What does the bearing look like in the crankshaft that the end of the shaft fits into? Do the rollers run on the end of the shaft or is there a sleeve between them? If the rollers run on the shaft, then you could have a problem with premature bearing failure if the shaft is not perfectly smooth, since the bearing turns on this bit of the shaft when the clutch is pressed.

  • It's a sleeve type bearing - thanks for bringing this to my attention
    – tgun926
    Commented Feb 15, 2020 at 11:25

There's no issues here. You've cleaned up the surface rust, which in reality would only prevent the friction disk from sliding on the input shaft. Since you've cleaned the input shaft and the disk slides free, there's not much to worry about here. I'd not think twice about using this tranny post clean up due to this minor surface irritation. Since the input shaft is most likely solid metal, it would take a LOT of corrosion to create an issue (I'm talking a hundred-years-of-open-elements [or more] amount of corrosion).

The little bit of corrosion which you've taken off is not going to cause you issues. The input shafts come with a certain amount of play between shaft and the disk, which your minor amount of cleanup is not going to affect it to a point where it would cause issues. The friction disk doesn't really move on the shaft all that much anyway. It just moves a little during clutch release and engagement, which allows it to move away and towards the flywheel. Most of the time (at a guess over 98+% of the time the engine is running) the disk is stationary. Also, in short order after being used a few times, the disk will effectively clean up the area on the input shaft where it will be riding. If you hadn't cleaned it up and as long as there was no real stiction between the two parts (disk slid without too much resistance), it would have self clearnanced and been in good shape for the life of the clutch. Again, not an issue.

Other things you'd want to ensure is the nose cone which the throwout bearing rides on will need to be cleaned. I'd throw it into a bead blasting cabinet if you have one available to you and get it cleaned up. You don't want the throwout bearing sticking, keeping the clutch partially engaged during use, which would bring the life expectancy of the clutch down in short order. Don't use grease or other lubricants which will fly off in this area, as this will run the risk of contaminating your clutch assembly and cause slippage during use.

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