There's a nut welded on my countershaft and I don't like that.
How do I remove it while minimizing the chance of damage to the countershaft's threads, as damage would necessitate:
a. welding a nut on
b. splitting the cases
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What don't you like about it? If there isn't an actual issue with it I'd leave it alone.– GdDCommented Feb 21, 2019 at 19:50
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Can't take the sprocket off. And in the current configuration there's 2mm of side-to-side movement in the sprocket which causes chain slap on the subframe and has a risk of damaging the splines on the shaft.– andreyCommented Feb 22, 2019 at 0:50
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Fair enough, you need to replace it or adjust it at least. I'd be thinking about how to keep the replacement from backing off as well as getting the old one off.– GdDCommented Feb 22, 2019 at 8:45
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I don't believe that is the "original" manufacturer configuration - there would be some locking washer with tabs to lock the nut - why did someone do this? You may find other damage and you will end up needing a new counter shaft.,..– Solar MikeCommented Feb 22, 2019 at 10:29
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Clearly not OEM. It's likely that the stock configuration was satisfactorily engineered for the bike's use. Why did the OEM setup fail? Is the failure cause still present?– DavidRecallsMonicaCommented Feb 22, 2019 at 16:14
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My suggestion is to take a Dremel tool or a angle grinder and clean out the weld, then you'll be able to back the nut off. The threads are already buggered from the welding which they were accosted with. Clean up the weld the best you can off of the shaft (and I mean really clean them up), then back the nut off, which should pull whatever debris off of them which is left. If you are planning on replacing the nut anyway, then splitting it is not a bad option, but you'll still need to cut down through the welds first, or you'll completely hose the threads in the process. Either way, once you get the nut off of there, you are going to have to chase those threads with a die, otherwise you'll most likely kill a new nut when you go to put it on.
To recap:
- Using an angle grinder, cutting directly at the weld (and into the nut), break the welds.
- Once the nut is free, back the nut off of the shaft. This will pull most of the debris with it and hopefully clean up the threads.
- Chase the threads with a die to straighten them up and hopefully clean it up fully.
- Get a new nut.
I don't see how you are going to get around not utilizing a new nut on there.
With all of this said, there was a reason the nut was welded onto the shaft in the first place. I'd suggest to keep it from backing off (obviously??). When you go to put a new nut back on there, if you don't want it welded, I'd suggest you use some red Locktite. This will keep it on there without issue and you won't have to worry about the weld.
answered Feb 21, 2019 at 18:37
I agree ,grind the weld. But I will add those steels are not intended to be welded and have a significant risk of cracks in the HAZ ( heat affected zone) . So try to remove some of the HAZ, I would guess if you remove 1/8 " of metal past the fusion line for those small welds. Assuming you want to reuse any parts.
answered Feb 22, 2019 at 1:23
