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So I have read that impact sockets are generally made of Chrome Molybdenum and are supposed to be a little softer so they can absorb the impact of an impact gun, whilst Chrome sockets are harder and cannot absorb sudden increases in torque.

So this gets me wondering if it is actually valid to use impact sockets with a hand torque wrench? Would they flex under torque slightly an skew the torque applied?

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  • The reason not to use chrome-plated sockets with an impact is that the chrome can fleck off and fly into your eyeball. The reason impact sockets have chrome and molybdenum in them is because they are stainless steel which helps against corrosion in place of the chrome plating. In fact the Rockwell hardness of a stainless impact socket might be slightly higher than the steel in a common chrome-plated socket. Commented Mar 15, 2017 at 1:56
  • @DavidFreitag This is the opposite of what the OP was asking. He was asking about using a impact socket with a non-impact wrench.
    – Alex
    Commented Nov 28, 2020 at 21:18

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Short answer : no, you can't apply the force suddenly enough to make the socket flex to make a difference - what can skew the readings or, at least, the torque applied is friction between the nut or bolt head and the surface it is mating to. That is why some manuals state the type of lubricant to be used between the nut / washer etc.

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  • The torque applied to a fixing, of whatever type as you say the bolt is not a bolt, can be taken as a product of force * distance (Newton metres or Foot pounds if you prefer). However the torque is applied then the result required is sufficient compression of two items. If you want a "free state" then what resists the torque?
    – Solar Mike
    Commented Mar 15, 2017 at 6:59
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Impact sockets are exactly as you describe them (This Ingersoll Rand Tool Tip provides info.)

Don't let the idea of the impact socket being more pliable fool you. The main idea of the impact socket and the reason why it can flex is to handle the extreme, sudden torque which is applied through the impact gun. This flexibility will not affect the outcome of the torque which is being applied and measured by the torque wrench. The reason for this is because if the socket head flexes during the torque, the torque wrench doesn't register the give (it equates it to the same amount). Since the socket is attached to the head of the torque wrench, it's considered part of the torque wrench (the head of the fastener could be considered the same). You may twist the handle more, but the needle won't swing any further (or the click won't happen or the meter won't register any more torque applied).

The flexing of the socket is so minimal, this should never be a worry. For that matter, a regular socket is going to flex as well, but we don't worry about them. It will just flex a little less than an impact socket, is all. Again, the difference is going to be quite minimal and nothing to worry about.

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  • The entire concept of torque limiter bars goes against this "the socket is considered part of the torque wrench" logic.
    – Alex
    Commented Nov 28, 2020 at 21:22
  • @Alex - Not sure I'm following you. If you've ever seen the torque limiter, they are pretty much an extension with a socket permanently attached to it. The "extension" portion of them twist, which limits the amount of torque which can be applied (but only with an impact gun). The socked does nothing more than hold the nut (or lug, in this case). Commented Nov 28, 2020 at 22:11
  • I believe the idea that the OP was asking about is, that the socket itself can also twist. So the socket becoming part of the torque wrench doesn't really have any impact on why the answer is no.
    – Alex
    Commented Nov 28, 2020 at 22:21

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