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This is on a 1998 Chevy Cavalier, automatic transaxle, 2.2L. This sensor went bad last July and I replaced it then. When it goes bad, the check engine light comes on and then the temperature gauge on the dashboard doesn't report the temperature (it stays at the bottom/cold).

It went bad again last week, after which I replaced it. Drove around a bit and seemed to be running/reporting correctly, but then after about 10 minutes, the temp gauge dropped back to cold and I am back to square one.

When the ECT sensor quits working, the transmission starts shifting hard (I just checked the transmission fluid; Ended up adding about 2 quarts, but it is still shifting hard). During the ~10 minutes that the sensor was working, the transmission seemed to be shifting properly.

Has anyone seen this type of problem before? Any ideas why the sensor would go bad whenever the outside temp is hot, or comments on the apparent link between the hard shifting and the bad gauge?

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  • I have same problem changed sensor to no effect..rewired no.effect temp gauge doesn't move fans on constantly. But if I earth it from the brown wire to the battery temp gauge works fans stop running constantly but also goes into limp mode.im stuck as to what it coukd be now – Tricky Jan 17 '17 at 20:23
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Wiring problem? Unplug the connector and check the pins with a multimeter. If it looks alive, trace the wiring from the connector as far as you can. If you're lucky you'll be able to visually see a problem, it not, you'll have to probe the wires until you find the fault. If it's actually dead at the sensor, are you sure you've got the correct part?

Some vehicles have two sensors, one going to the powertrain controller and the other going to the cluster. It sounds like you've only got one. I'd guess the PCM is feeding the gauge cluster. When the sensor is 'dead', the PCM should command any cooling fans you have on to full power. When the sensor seems to be working, if you pull the wiring connector, do the fans come on immediately?

As far as the correlation with hard shifting, I'm not sure what's going on there. Do you have a transmission cooler? If so, maybe the PCM is altering the shifts since it doesn't know how hot the cooling system is. If not, maybe you've got a ground problem in your wiring harness and the coolant sensor is sharing it with something in your transmission? Timo's got the right idea, check the continuity on the pin for the ground wire on the connector for the sensor when the gauge is dead vs when it's working. It's probably a two wire setup, if so, the black wire should be ground.

I'm not sure if the volt/ohm specs in this article are applicable to your vehicle, but it's a start. The enthusiast forums at j-body.org and clubcav.com probably have more detailed information. Hopefully there is a sticky thread or FAQ that covers your situation.

There's always a Haynes/Chilton manual for wiring diagrams and troubleshooting info, but the ultimate reference would be the factory service manual from Helm, but it looks like yours is $200. Pricey, but it will have complete wiring diagrams and probably a troubleshooting tree for your situation. Haynes or Chilton will have similar info, but it will be less detailed as they're trying to cover multiple years and models in one tome.

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  • Probably a bad ground somewhere in the system. Check the grounding path for the sensor, gauge, and ECU (could be any of them, depending on exactly how the sensor & gauge are designed in that particular car). – Brian Knoblauch May 29 '12 at 21:28
  • Just got back to this problem now. Picked up a new connector from the junk yard and replaced it and the problem seems to be solved. Before changing, I used a multimeter to check the output on the wires about 4 inches away from the sensor and there was none, even though the pins on the sensor still showed appropriate values. – Chris Shaffer Nov 25 '13 at 14:51

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