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Electric fans are now common on cars, both aftermarket and stock. The advantages in horsepower, faster warmup, and hence emissions are well documented elsewhere. The same reasoning can be applied to justify an electric water pump.

  • Is there as much to gain as what has been achieved with electric fans?
  • Should the water pump start spinning when the thermostat opens?
  • Could the thermostat be removed and the shutting down of the pump be relied upon to stop water being cooled by the radiator when the engine has not come up to its recommended operating temp?
  • Must the proposed electric water pump always spin albeit at some slow speed to keep the engine temp even?
  • Would variable speed be good or would a simple on/off thermostatic switch suffice?
  • Should the pump be allowed to run after the ign is off to facilitate cool down like some electric fans do when the engine is hot?
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  • The VW W12 engines use an electric water pump. The nice thing is they continue to run even if the car is off if engine temps are high enough. I'll see if I can get more information about the setup when I reach home tonight.
    – Zaid
    Commented Feb 24, 2016 at 11:27
  • The VW VR6 engine had an electric "After run" water pump that would circulate water through the engine after turning the car off to allow everything to cool evenly.
    – JPhi1618
    Commented Feb 24, 2016 at 14:29
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    I like your questions and answers, glad your here. Cheers! Commented Feb 26, 2016 at 1:37

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Is there as much to gain as what has been achieved with electric fans?

Remember you aren't gaining anything. Just like a belt run fan, each is a parasitic loss of power. When you put an electric water pump on the engine, you are regaining some of the lost power which you didn't have access to in the first place. This will allow for better fuel mileage, etc. You can expect about the same difference as what you'd see from an electric fan, but every engine is different so it would be very hard to put a specific number or percentage associated with the change.

Should the water pump start spinning when the thermostat opens?

No. It should run just like a regular pump does, which is all the time. I think you may have a misconception of how any pump works or even how the cooling system operates. There are two sides to the cooling system which is separated by the thermostat. What I'll call the inside includes the engine and water pump. The outside includes the radiator. The heater core can fall either the inside or the outside depending on how the manufacturer set it up when engineered. On the inside portion, the coolant circulates constantly. On the outside, the coolant flows only when the thermostat is open. Without the circulation on the inside, you'd get hotspots which would produce steam (these still occur even with circulation, but that's another story). The circulation helps keep the engine at a near constant temperature which helps with efficiency and with longevity of the engine.

Could the thermostat be removed and the shutting down of the pump be relied upon to stop water being cooled by the radiator when the engine has not come up to its recommended operating temp?

No. I believe this is answered above.

Must the proposed electric water pump always spin albeit at some slow speed to keep the engine temp even?

An electric pump flows what it flows. It turns on and circulates the coolant at the speed which it's rated for. This circulation speed is usually much faster than regular water pump at idle and a bit slower at higher engine speeds. They are usually designed to flow what the engine needs at any given speed.

Would variable speed be good or would a simple on/off thermostatic switch suffice?

Neither. You want to keep the flow at an even pace. You could possibly create some type of rheostat which would adjust speed of the pump to coincide with engine speed, but why would you when they work perfectly fine without it. By adding something like this you are creating unneeded complexity. With complexity you're adding more chinks in the armor ... one more place for something to fail.

Should the pump be allowed to run after the ign is off to facilitate cool down like some electric fans do when the engine is hot?

While most electric pumps don't come this way, it can be rigged as such. It's actually not a bad idea, especially if you have water cooled turbos or other parts which can get very hot and are cooled by the coolant system. Hot spots anywhere in the engine can cause issues. By having coolant flow over them you are helping them to cool at an even rate, which will allow for them to last longer and perform better in the long run.

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  • While you didn't ask this in your question, there is one thing which needs to be accounted for with an electric pump. That being: How do you know when it fails? There are methods to rig up a light inside the cabin which alerts the driver in the event of pump loss, which does happen. I don't remember exactly how it is rigged, but it's nothing difficult. Thought I'd mention. Commented Feb 24, 2016 at 12:43
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    +1 good answer .This means that I dont have to worry about some complicated control protocol which is good .It is really easy to monitor when an electric motor has stopped turning .I published a "fan fail circuit " in a pre internet previous life .You can buy motors with fail monitoring built in these days .
    – Autistic
    Commented Feb 24, 2016 at 12:48
  • I mentioned it because most people really wouldn't give it a thought and it is a real issue if not considered. Commented Feb 24, 2016 at 12:51

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