# Cold temperatures and tire pressure light

I have 2013 Nissan Rogue. I live in Toronto, Canada, so it is very cold here right now. I understand that cold temperatures can cause the tire pressure light to come on, but will it actually affect the reading if I use a pressure gauge (I think that's what it's called) to check the tire pressure?

For example, the recommended PSI is about 40 I believe. On Saturday, the tire pressure in all four tires was pretty low so I filled them all up to 41. Now, after leaving my car outside for about two hours, the tire pressure light came on when I started up my vehicle, so I manually checked the pressure with the pressure gauge, and they were all about 30. Is this due to the cold temperatures or do I have a problem with my tires?

All help would be appreciated. Thanks!

• More than likely this is due to lower temperatures. I suggest you monitor the tire pressures tomorrow and see what happens with them. Do you have any single tire that is changing in pressure more than all the others? Oh yes, AND welcome to the mechanics stack exchange site. You can click on this URL mechanics.stackexchange.com/tour and take the tour to see how this site works. It's pretty cool. Cheers! Commented Jan 5, 2016 at 6:27
• When you filled them up to 40 psi, were the tires warm? Had you just used the vehicle? Was the temperature warmer outside than when you filled it up to 41 psi?
– Zaid
Commented Jan 5, 2016 at 7:12
• I had been driving the vehicle for about 20 min before I filled up to 41 PSI. It was about 0 degrees celcius outside when I filled up. It was about -15 degrees outside when I checked the tire pressure and saw that it was at 30 Commented Jan 6, 2016 at 0:20

Physics says:

``````                T2
p2 = (p1+p0) * ----  - p0
T1
``````

If you have temperature `T1` and pressure `p1` when you filled the tires, you can calculate the new pressure `p2` when the temperature changes to `T2`.

Since pressure is measured relative to ambient air pressure, you also need that pressure `p0`. Though there are changes in ambient air pressure, they are usually not that large as it could play a role here.

Now, pressure can be given in any unit (since you're using psi, `p0=14.7psi` at sealevel), but temperature must be given in an absolute scale, i.e. in Kelvin. And of course, the temperature is the temperature of the tire - it warms up while driving!

You can now calculate if the pressure drop makes sense. I've done it graphically:

A drop from ~41psi to 30psi needs a temperature drop of about 60°C / 110°F, which is quite much. But Toronto had 0°C last saturday, now it's -15°C and if you topped your tires then, you would now have about 37.5 psi. Consider the tires had 10°C then and are cold now, you would have 36psi now.

So 30psi is a bit low for just being an effect of temperature, if my values are correct. But measuring tire pressure sometimes is a little tricky (I mean get the pressure from the tire into the gauge). Temperature may also have an effect on the gauge, but I can't imagine it's that large. But who knows...

However, you also said that all tires behave the same way, so you don't have a problem with them.

• +1, This is why I'm wondering if the OP topped it up when the tires were warm (regardless of ambient temperature)
– Zaid
Commented Jan 5, 2016 at 11:50
• I had topped it up after driving for maybe twenty minutes or so. Is there anyway to get an accurate reading on the PSI? I don't want to keep refilling the tires when it doesn't really need to be inflated, and then the tires burst or get damaged. I also do not want to be driving with deflated tires. Should the low to mid 30's be an okay level to drive at during the winter (when it's cold)? Commented Jan 6, 2016 at 0:11

The gauge does not need to be incredibly accurate, but it does need to be consistent, and precise. You can get the precision from a digital gauge and they are very cheap. I believe they are also consistent as long as you press down well enough to fully open the valve, and that there is nothing leaking out around the valve when taking the measurement. That at least will remove much of the measurement error.

If your 20 minutes of driving was at highway speeds for most of that, you might have gotten the tires 10 deg C warmer than when they have sat overnight. But if you were just driving around town at relatively low speeds, I would be surprised if you got more than a few degrees C. That's especially true if you're driving through snow since the snow will cool the tires quickly and keep your speeds low.

One thing you can try, while it's still really cold outside, fill the tires to 35 or 36 PSI when they are still cold from sitting overnight. Then if it gets significantly warmer, and the tires are warm from driving, you are still under the max pressure, and not so low that they are under inflated when it's really cold (since you filled them to 36 when it was really cold).

Hope that helps at least some!