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During my last roadtrip when I was driving at about 80mph on the highway (75 speed limit) a pressed the brakes abruptly after being cutoff by another vehicle, then my MIL came on. When I checked the fault code with VAGCOM it said:

17522 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor: B1 S2: Internal Resistance too High

P1114 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

(2002 VW GTI 1.8T, 67k miles odometer)

I reset the code and the light stayed off, but ever since that incident, now when I reach about 70mph on the highway (and sustain that speed for about 30 seconds) the MIL comes back on again. After a day or two the MIL turns off automatically and remains off until I exceed 70mph again (same fault code).

I have reproduced this problem 3 times. As long as I stay below 70mph on the highway, then NO fault code appears. I don't notice any strange behavior or decrease in performance, but I'm now staying below 70mph until I can figure this out.

Is this more likely an issue with the wiring/harness or the O2 sensor itself, or possibly something else entirely?

Thanks for the help.

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    Can you reproduce this problem if you hold the engine at the same RPM as when you are travelling at 70mph for the same amount of time. For instance, if your engine is running at 2300rpm at 70mph, if you hold your engine at 2300rpm for 30 seconds at a slower speed (lower gear), will the code pop? Commented Dec 25, 2015 at 15:40
  • I tried running the engine around 3100rpm in gears 1-4 (the same rpm as 5th gear at 70mph) and could NOT cause the MIL to turn ON. A few days later I tried going 70-75mph again on the highway, and also could NOT reproduce the MIL. The problem seems to have vanished.
    – MasterHD
    Commented Jan 6, 2016 at 15:18
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    I hate "Fixed while troubleshooting" ... don't you?? I will bet the problem will rear it's ugly head again at some point. When it does, come back and update us. Commented Jan 6, 2016 at 19:30

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It is most likely that this sensor has failed.

The question is why does the MIL only come on above 70mph. The answer lies not in the sensor but how and when the sensor is tested by the PCM. Every sensor (and actuator) in the engine control system is tested by the software, but not all the time. Each sensor has its own set of test entry conditions; each OEM will vary when and how each is tested. Regulatory rules define test conditions for a few of the parts in this system but not all, so the OEM's are free to choose when they perform the tests. Their primary goal when designing the software is to keep the MIL off whenever possible while having the system satisfy the minimum regulatory requirements. The solutions they have chosen over the years vary greatly.

So, in the case of this OEM, with software written at this time, they test resistance on this sensor at or above 70mph.

The next question is why does the MIL go off after a few trips?

The regulations allow the light to be turned off after two trips in which the part passes an on-board test. There are two possible cases to explain this:

1) The resistance test is run at power on and it passes that test. This type of circuit test is most commonly done at power on. Or

2) VW wrote the code incorrectly. The CARB regulations were extensively rewritten for the 2004 model because of significant errors such at this is anomaly implies.

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  • Ah, I didn't even consider this. Same failure cause, but different explanation for the sensor failure being detected above 70mph. Your explanation makes sense.
    – juhist
    Commented Dec 25, 2015 at 17:44
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    I have second thoughts about this answer. Can you explain why the MIL automatically turns off after 1-2 days while staying below 70mph? Surely, the regulations wouldn't allow the MIL to turn automatically off and remain off if the driver chooses to drive only below 70mph. It seems to me that if the MIL turns off automatically, some tests are made indicating the sensor is working (because of the low exhaust gas temperature). If no tests are made, the system should remember the result of the last >70mph test, which indicated the sensor is faulty. And can you explain the "intermittent" code?
    – juhist
    Commented Dec 25, 2015 at 18:06
  • @juhist See an added part to the answer about how onboard tests can show odd behavior. I see so much of this in the early OBD11 systems I don't consider it unusual. If by intermittent you mean when the MIL goes on and off, post it as a question and I and others will give our best answers. Commented Dec 25, 2015 at 21:02
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    It might be increased resistance due to heat... I did a few measurements on the 1.8T (Ibiza Cupra, but similar engine) during phases of heavy load (accelerating quickly or at steep hills or from low rpm) the temperature of exhaust rises very quickly. If your sensor is rather old it might have drifted in the higher temp regions. If accelerating smoothly lower temperature is expected at 70mph. Usually in the software the MIL state is saved like: was happening, not active any more...
    – AnyOneElse
    Commented Sep 22, 2016 at 12:06
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I haven't been able to find any solid conclusions on the VW forums regarding the root cause for this behavior, but there are some clues as to what could be causing this from the diagnostic code.

Fred Wilson's answer remains a distinct possibility but I struggle to reason with why the engine computer would choose to throw a code/MIL for a bad sensor on a speed-based condition.

To me, a far more plausible explanation for what you're observing is that it is an intermittent issue due to loose wiring, for the following reasons:

  • "Internal resistance too high" might be interpreted to apply to the situation where the circuit for the O2 sensor signal becomes open (close to infinite resistance)

  • It is plausible that the loose connection could have been induced by heavy braking, which would explain why you see the problem only after your sudden-braking incident

  • If the vehicle surpasses a certain speed, it may load the O2 sensor connector or wiring in a way that the circuit becomes open (mainly wind, aerodynamic drag, vibrations)

  • I wouldn't expect an O2 sensor itself to work intermittently. It's either giving a signal or it's kaput

Suggestions

  • Confirm that you have good signal coming from the O2 using VAG-COM or a scan tool. Given the intermittency of the problem, I don't think you have a bad sensor

  • Inspect the wiring harness and make sure that the connections are solid. If you don't see anything remiss, hit both male and female sides of the connectors with some electronic contact cleaner before reconnecting them


It can be tough to diagnose such issues over the Internet, but based on the information provided I believe this would fit the symptoms like a glove. Hope this helps.

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  • This was my hunch too, mainly that it may be related to vibrations in the wires/harness. I know that I'd need a special tool to remove the sensor, but I think I might be able to disconnect and clean the harness contacts just by hand (hopefully). I'll look into that first chance I get.
    – MasterHD
    Commented Dec 26, 2015 at 1:35
  • @MasterHD that's right, the sensor doesn't have to be removed (at least for the time being). Also, remember that the break could be occurring elsewhere.
    – Zaid
    Commented Dec 26, 2015 at 3:15
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Because this issue is speed dependent, I'm almost certain that it is related to exhaust gas temperature. Paulster2 suggested checking whether the issue happens at a lower gear. However, then the load on the engine is lower, so there are less exhaust gases. It may be the case that the issue does not happen at a lower gear, therefore. But a good idea to check whether it occurs at a lower gear, anyway.

I'm almost certain this is an indication of the oxygen sensor failing due to the heating resistor starting to fail. The exhaust gases should mainly affect the temperature of the heating resistor, not as much the temperature of the wiring. So, I would replace the sensor to see if it remedies the issue.

If you're on a tight budget, replacement can be postponed. The sensor failure should not cause catastrophical troubles to the engine, and most cars have two sensors nowadays, so if one sensor fails, the second can provide some information to the engine management system. The main problem of a sensor failing is that in theory it may increase your emissions, but since this is a heating circuit failure and occurs only at high speed, the sensor is then already warm, so I don't believe your problem increases emissions yet. But if the heating circuit fails completely, then I believe emissions will be somewhat increased.

The mandatory inspection can be failed due to the trouble code. So, drive the car to the mandatory inspection at low speed and hope the problem does not occur during the inspection, if you're planning to postpone replacement.

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  • A heater circuit usually has its own code; seems to be the case for VWs as well. I don't think this is an issue pertaining to the heating element inside the lambda sensor; something else is at play here
    – Zaid
    Commented Dec 25, 2015 at 19:21
  • Ok, might be an incorrect answer then. I assumed that the resistance means the heating element, because my failed lambda sensor showed an incorrect voltage code, which led me to assume that an incorrect resistance code would refer to the heating element.
    – juhist
    Commented Dec 25, 2015 at 20:17
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    No, most lambdas don't work that way. I've been wanting to put up a Q&A on lambda sensor operation for quite some time now... This question may just prove to be enough motivation to get it done. I'll write one up tomorrow morning if everything goes to plan
    – Zaid
    Commented Dec 25, 2015 at 20:24
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    Et voilà, better late than never :)
    – Zaid
    Commented Dec 28, 2015 at 22:24

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